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The World of Wine, Beer & Spirits
The Big Picture at Interstate
By Fred Tibbitts
Fred Tibbitts
Fred Tibbitts

Don Stanczak
Don Stanczak

Don Stanczak, senior food and beverage executive, Interstate Hotels & Resorts, looks beyond outlets to catering sales.

How did you enter the food and beverage business and hotels in particular?

I was raised north of Pittsburgh in a small steel town. But I traveled quite a bit and stayed in some upscale resort hotels and thought this would be a great way to make a living. After graduating from Cornell, I went to work for the Interstate United Corporation in the restaurant division and settled in Chicago as opening managing director of food and beverage operations in the Sears Tower.

What are the most important elements for a successful hotel wine program?

You must be better than the rest. That means having a diversified wine list with both traditional and New World selections and an aggressive wine-by-the-glass program with wines handled properly and served at the correct temperatures.

Do you rely on intuition in terms of looking over the horizon to position hotels as a wine destination, or do you just look at the facts?

One key point is to recognize the difference in the degree of sophistication and wine preference between markets and offer enough flexibility to satisfy those demands.

When is Interstate launching a new wine program? Do you anticipate major changes, or are you fine tuning what already works well?

It’s being launched in March and will be in effect for 12 months. There will be a greater emphasis on boutique and New World wines.

Wine flights are attracting a great deal of interest. Will a wine flights minimum standard be included when updating your wine policy?

We are considering offering wine flights in our upscale properties.

Wine flights are attracting a great deal of interest. Will a wine flights minimum standard be included when updating your wine policy?

We are considering offering wine flights in our upscale properties.

Often, hotels don’t spend enough on wine training because they rationalize they are training servers who may soon be working for a competitor.What is your approach to training?

We offer wine training on our First Choice website but typically expect training support from our beverage partners. A major 2008 initiative will be a training program for catering sales staff. We feel too much emphasis is placed on outlet sales and not nearly enough on potentially profitable catering sales.

Wine preservation is an issue when a hotel expands its by-the-glass and/or by-the-taste offerings. Do you specify a preservation system, or is the decision made at the property level? If you specify a system, does one shoe fit all, or do you draw on a variety of approaches?

We recognize the need for a program due to the increased demand for extensive wine-by-the-glass offerings and hope to implement one in 2008. We favor Le Verre de Vin, although it’s a little pricey.

While California wines are the largest-selling type in the United States, it is suggested that this will be the world’s top imported wine market by 2010. French exports to the United States increased in 2006 for the first time in years as a result of new packaging, more fruit-forward blends and varietals, and a greater awareness of how to speak to the U.S. wine-consuming public.The Australian wine machine continues to take on all comers. Do you think in terms of “New World” and “Old World” or in terms of country by country, regardless of the latitude and longitude of the appellation, when developing a program?

Most wine companies get absorbed in their own spin and lose touch with the customer. Generally speaking, consumers are much more knowledgeable about wine than they were even five years ago, but it’s important to recognize the degree of sophistication. For example, this question is a bit confusing: How can you compare a longitude and latitude decision to Yellow Tail? A majority of the market recognizes the value of Yellow Tail because of the off-premise marketing effort. Unless you operate in an upscale market, I can’t imagine that longitude and latitude are part of this discussion. It’s a country and product decision, with a balance between New and Old World. I would also suggest that, while the masses do not recognize the New and Old World monikers, the Wine Spectator/ Wine Advocate groupies probably do.

What levels (value, premium superpremium, ultra-premium) of spirits do you mandate for bars and restaurants? What about catering?

We mandate all four product levels for both outlets and catering. We also incorporated benchmark pricing in 2007 due to the increasing number of items and cocktails that fall into the ultra-premium category.

Do you have a national drinks menu, or do menus vary by hotel? What about spirits promotions? What kinds do you offer, and for how long?

We offer two tiers of lounge food and beverage menus, plus a seasonal drink menu. We just released a lounge promotion called “Wired,” featuring a large selection of wines by the glass, wireless connectivity, and upscale menu items. We also offer two major food and wine promotions annually. Our next one is “Great Chefs Great Seafood,” featuring menu items from Interstate’s most successful executive chefs matched with wines by the glass and a special cocktail.

What spirits are the most popular? When will the next spirits revolution happen, and what will it be like?

Margaritas remain the most popular cocktail and probably will continue to be so. The trend toward better and fresher ingredients will become a standard at all levels of operations. An area we feel has been ignored in hotels, but not by the casual chain restaurants, is upscale nonalcoholic drinks. One of our 2008 objectives is to create a series of creative drinks that can be served either with or without spirits.

Are shooters alive and well, or have they reincarnated into a new form? Are mini-shot flights gaining popularity similar to mini-wine flights?

Shooters are generally not a popular fit in most hotel environments but rather in the high-energy bar segment. I see a growing market for infused drinks, flavored ice, etc.

What about beer? Is the trend to new drafts or bottles or both?

We dedicate the majority of our draft heads to imported or boutique brands, particularly those with custom glassware.

Are microbrews gaining or losing momentum? Do microbrews from big brewers have the greatest market share of the category, or is it a combination of all the local microbrew favorites?

It’s market driven, but, in general, imports have taken a bigger share in most markets. I’m not sure that the micros the big brewers offer should be included in this.

What about the light category? Is it still gaining market share? Heineken has come out with Heineken Premium Light.They feel they have taken the light category to a new “luxury” level. Do you agree?

Light beers will remain popular. I believe that there is a market for luxury light if there is an acceptable product.

What is the next big thing in beer on-premise? Any chance it will be tasting flights of microbrews?

Tasting flights of micros is not new. We did it on Martha’s Vineyard 10 years ago with great success. Tasting flights have great appeal, but, from an operator’s perspective, tasting flights can slow down service and in some cases reduce sales.

You also provide food and beverage direction for other hotel chains. Describe the other chains you assist and what kinds of programs you do.

I work with several hotel management companies, all of which operate properties under the major flags. While all of the brands offer wine programs, they are not mandatory for franchise operators. Therefore, they are free to create their own wine programs. Most management companies have not addressed this issue, so their programs tend to be property driven. My direction is to work with the wineries to develop a core program for these properties and alter it to suit the location.

In five to ten years, how do you see the hotel wine business changing? Will wine continue to increase its share of the beverage alcohol business in bars, restaurants, in-room dining, and banquets? Will the wine knowledge of restaurant managers, banquet sales managers, and servers be greater? Will imported wines have a greater share of sales, or will California maintain its market share?

Yes to all of the above, but the California market share will be value/price driven. For example, reasonable French Burgundies are competitively priced with California and Oregon Pinots. More and more of the higher- end California Cabs and Blends are priced at the same level as high-quality reds from Italy, France, and Spain.

What are your favorite wines and why?

Properly aged French Burgundy, Bordeaux- Drouhin, Jadot Grange, California Cabernet or Meritage, Silver Oak, Lancaster, Paul Hobbs, Insignia, Northern Côtes du Rhône Chave Hermitage, Portuguese Duoro, French Sauterne, Duval-Leroy Champagne. I have been fortunate to travel to most of the world’s great wine-growing regions, and my favorite wines are selected both by taste and experience. Wine is about more than a rating or taste; it’s a total experience.



Fred Tibbitts & Associates Inc. is a leading wine-by-the-glass consultant, working with and promoting chains around the world. Contact Fred at fredbv@fredtibbitts.com.

  
        






         



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